The ... dogs that I have had in classes generally have issues with lack of socialization -- snarky with other dogs, don't know how to read canine body language, don't know how to settle down, things like that. I am not against "... dogs", I am against "...people" who do not have dogs who are properly socialized and have horrible manners ... .The show dogs that I have had in classes generally have issues with lack of socialization -- snarky with other dogs, don't know how to read canine body language, don't know how to settle down, things like that. I am not against "show dogs", I am against "show people" who do not have dogs who are properly socialized and have horrible manners outside of a show ring.
My latest was a Golden breeder who has a six month old that is so petrified being out in public, that it is debilitating - she cannot move. She wants this dog to be a show dog because she "came from champions" and in her words "is a perfect dog" so I have to get her "over this" so I can "show her" and have her as part of my "breeding stock". Well, the woman never socialized the dog to anything or anyone but her other two Goldens and she wanted me to "fix her dog" so she could make her a champion and breed her. She got this puppy from the "Champion breeder" at 12 weeks and that breeder never had the dog anywhere but in her kennel with her littermates. She told me this exactly: "I don't want to come to puppy classes for her to get any training, I just want her to get socialized and that should fix the problem, you don't need to teach me to train her."
Yea, so I have a bit of a bug up my butt sometimes about some "show people", not all "show people".
I get along much better with people who understand the importance of puppy socialization and teaching their dog basic manners, that's just how I roll. So, I get your frustration, Calypso, I really do.
Your intention may not have been to generalize but the overall tone certainly reads that way. You didn't address your vent to "Some People!" or to "This Breeder!", you focused on "Show People". Granted you qualified it as show-obsessed, but that hardly narrows it down. Most people who have a hobby that they are so passionate about that it becomes a lifestyle are 'obsessed' with it to an extent. As I attempted to illustrate with the edited quote, it's generalizing from one individual asshat to an entire community. It's extraneous information to point out that they're' show people, just like it would be extraneous information if I told a story about a social encounter I had and made a point of mentioning the other person's race, weight, religion, or lifestyle.I wasn't generalizing, just sharing my experience. Were you calling me an "asshat"? I much prefer "assbonnet".
I was being "silly" and it got lost in translation, I knew she wasn't calling me that, I was just being funny, but it got missed. I have read my posts again, I wasn't generalizing - I stated what my experience has been so far.....and if it came off like that in print, please accept my apologies.The way I read it Kara's asshat reference was in reference at one breeder/owner/person who doesn't socialize the pup (or whatever the offending thing is).
it's unfair to generalize from one asshat to an entire community = one shitty show person doesn't mean all show people are that way.
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