What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines

[Sabine]

1. Here's the promised scanned document of Dr. Schultz' presentation
"What Everyone Needs to Know About Canine Vaccines and Vaccination Programs".
http://betterdogcare.com/downloads/drsc ... ccines.pdf
It's a bit slow, I'm trying to reduce the size later on today so it will load faster.

2. Guidelines for the Vaccination of Dogs and Cats
Vaccination Guidelines Group (VGG) of The World Small Animal Veterinary Association (WSAVA)
http://www.wsava.org/PDF/Misc/Vaccinati ... es2010.pdf

3. AAHA (American Animal Hospital Association) Vaccination Guidelines 2011 (revised)
https://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocuments ... elines.pdf

4. Purdue Vaccine Study (Article by Catherine O'Driscoll)
http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/pu ... n-studies/

5. Dr. Bob Rogers' website "New Vaccination Protocols"
http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/
Please note that the left-hand menu links are often broken - you can access all sections of the slideshow by using the "Forward" and "Back" links at the bottom of each page though.

6. A short FAQ on vaccines by Dr. Bob Rogers
http://www.critteradvocacy.org/FAQ's.htm

[RobinS]

Thanks, Mordy....also, I have typed up all my notes and put in excerpts from the hand out I received from the meeting I attended last Saturday...it's all on my blog if anyone wants to read it.

[BassetLover]

Thank you, Mordanna! I am sure this will help to clear up some confusion about vaccines.

[sheltienut]

Thank you for posting this.

[jadakei]

I'm not familiar with Dr. Schultz -

It seems like alot of vaccines for puppies though -
maybe I'm just not understanding it.

[LoverOfDogs18]

Thank you!!!

[KrisChristine]

Excellent information, thank you for posting the links!!!!!

[KrisChristine]

There is an interesting article on veterinary vaccines which you can read in its entirety at the link below.

Are Our Pets Being Overvaccinated, by Melissa Burden, The Press http://www.presspublications.com/pages/ ... orts10.asp

(Dr. W. Jean Dodds) [color:#CC0000] �But there is really no breed that is not at risk,� she said. The only vaccination needed, she asserts, is the rabies vaccine because it is legally required. Dogs� and cats� immune systems mature fully at 6 months old, she explained. If canine distemper, feline distemper and parvovirus vaccines are given after 6 months, a pet has immunity for the rest of its life.[/color]

(Dr. Robert Rogers) [color:#CC0000]�Dogs and cats no longer need to be vaccinated against distemper, parvo, and feline leukemia every year,� Rogers said. �Once the initial series of puppy or kitten vaccinations and first annual vaccinations are completed, immunity�persists for life. Not only are annual boosters for parvo and distemper unnecessary, they subject the pet to the potential risk of adverse reactions, he added.[/color]

[biscuit]

Thanks Mordanna, Robin and Kris.

I like my vet, he is older, but stays up to date on info. He bases his schedule on local concerns and respects owners wishes. He doesn't use the vaccines most recommend not to use.

There were over 130 cases of rabies here last year.

The latest case was woman who found a raccoon and took it into her home. Everyone in the family played with it, kissed it, etc. They took it to the vet and it tested positive for rabies. Now the whole family is being treated for possible rabies.

[KrisChristine]

Holistic Vet Advocates Alternative Pet Care http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08162/888634-338.stm
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 By Susan Banks, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

"I think poor nutrition is responsible for a majority of the chronic
disease we see in animals, and [too many] vaccines are a close second."

"When it comes to vaccines, he's of the unwavering opinion that they
are given too often, sometimes causing long-term effects that may not
be immediately apparent. Certain cancers have been linked to vaccines,
and it is thought some autoimmune problems and perhaps seizure
disorders are also triggered by boosters. "

[KrisChristine]

The size of your dog and the frequency of vaccine administration affects the likelihood of adverse reactions according to the article below. Small breed dog owners should be especially aware when considering a protocol for their animals.

Vaccinal adverse reactions are becoming more recognized and acknowledged in the veterinary community -- in an August 1, 2008 article in DVM360 entitled Vaccination: An Overview, http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/av ... ?id=568351 Dr. Melissa Kennedy states that of the two types of vaccinal adverse reactions:

Adverse reactions have also become a major concern in small animal medicine. .... These fall into two general categories. The first is immediate hypersensitivity. This may be a local or systemic response, and is due to pre-existing antibody to the agent. This is the classic "allergic reaction" to the vaccine and can be life-threatening. The second is a delayed response, requiring days of longer to develop. The vaccine, seen as foreign, elicits a significant inflammatory response and is especially true for adjuvanted vaccines. This response can manifest as a granuloma, or more seriously, a fibrosarcoma .

Further, she reports that The likelihood of adverse reactions in dogs has been found to correlate with the size of the dog and the number of inoculations given, with higher risk associated with small size and multiple inoculations.

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Duration of Immunity to Canine Vaccines: What We Know and Don't Know, Dr. Ronald Schultz http://www.cedarbayvet.com/duration_of_immunity.htm

What Everyone Needs to Know about Canine Vaccines, Dr. Ronald Schultz
http://www.puliclub.org/CHF/AKC2007Conf ... ccines.htm

Vaccination: An Overview Dr. Melissa Kennedy, DVM360 http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/av ... ?id=568351

World Small Animal Veterinary Association 2007 Vaccine Guidelines http://www.wsava.org/SAC.htm Scroll down to Vaccine Guidelines 2007 (PDF)

The 2003 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are accessible online at http://www.leerburg.com/special_report.htm .

The 2006 American Animal Hospital Association's Canine Vaccine Guidelines are downloadable in PDF format at http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocumen...s06Revised.pdf .

Veterinarian, Dr. Robert Rogers,has an excellent presentation on veterinary vaccines at http://www.newvaccinationprotocols.com/

Duration of Immunity: The Rabies Vaccine Challenge - Show #185 Animal Talk Radio Show 7/30/08 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/animaltalk ... e-Show-186

October 1, 2002 DVM Newsletter article entitled, AVMA, AAHA to Release Vaccine Positions, http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/arti ... p?id=35171

July 1, 2003 DVM Newsletter article entitled, What Do We Tell Our Clients?, Developing thorough plan to educate staff on changing vaccine protocols essential for maintaining solid relationships with clients and ensuring quality care http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/arti ... p?id=61696

July 1, 2003, DVM Newsletter article, Developing Common Sense Strategies for Fiscal Responsibility: Using an interactive template to plan service protocol changes http://www.dvmnewsmagazine.com/dvm/arti ... p?id=61694

Animal Wellness Magazine Article Vol. 8 Issue 6, How Often Does he REALLY Need A Rabies Shot Animal Wellness Magazine - devoted to natural health in animals

The Rabies Challenge Animal Wise Radio Interview
Listen to Animal Wise (scroll down to The Rabies Challenge 12/9/07)

The Vaccine Challenge Animal Talk Naturally Online Radio Show � The Vaccine Challenge - Show #91

Rabies Shot Killed my Poodle May 28, 2008 Channel 5 News WCVB http://www.thebostonchannel.com:80/news ... os&taf=bos

US Declared Canine-Rabies Free -- CDC Announces at Inaugural World Rabies Day Symposium CDC Press Release - September 7, 2007

Rabies Prevention -- United States, 1991 Recommendations of the Immunization Practices Advisory Committee (ACIP), Center for Disease Control's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly March 22, 1991 / 40(RR03);1-19 http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00041987.htm "A fully vaccinated dog or cat is unlikely to become infected with rabies, although rare cases have been reported (48). In a nationwide study of rabies among dogs and cats in 1988, only one dog and two cats that were vaccinated contracted rabies (49). All three of these animals had received only single doses of vaccine; no documented vaccine failures occurred among dogs or cats that had received two vaccinations. "[/size]

[Carmen]

http://www.dogs4dogs.com/seminar


Safer Pet Vaccination and Health Care: An Educational Seminar and Benefit*

San Diego, CA
Sunday, March 28, 2010

Featuring world-renowned pet vaccination experts
Drs. W. Jean Dodds and Ronald D. Schultz.



This is a rare opportunity to spend a day learning what two of the world's most respected experts can teach you. Drs. Dodds and Schultz are volunteering their time to the rabies vaccine study and to this seminar.

*Dr. Ron Schultz will speak on "What Every Pet Owner Should Know About Vaccines and Vaccination Programs." Click to learn more.
*Dr. Jean Dodds will speak on "Managing and Treating Adverse Vaccine Reactions" and will also address titer testing, blood tests for wellness, homeopathy to help make vaccinating safer, and more. Click to learn more.
* Both speakers will answer questions periodically and at a roundtable Q & A session.
* Handouts detailing topics will be provided to participants.
* Enjoy surprise pet care demonstrations.

When: From 8 AM to 5:30 on Sunday, March 28, 2010.

Food: Enjoy a continental breakfast and light lunch. (Vegetarian food will be available.)

Where: Del Mar Hilton, in North San Diego County, CA, just minutes from beaches (like Dog Beach), Interstate 5, and directly across the street from the Del Mar Fairgrounds and world famous Del Mar Racetrack. Just 30 minutes from San Diego's airport.

Who Should Attend? Concerned pet owners, vets, vet techs and other pet care professionals. Seating is limited. Sorry, no pets.

Continuing Education Credits for Professionals: Vets and vet techs may expect to earn 6 continuing education credits.

Auction: Dog care businesses and others are donating products and services to be auctioned. They include titer testing (to test your dog's immunity to disease); consultations with holistic vets; pet food and supplement baskets; chiropractic care for dogs; dog training sessions; pet care products; grooming; dinner at local restaurants and more. (Products will be promoted on our donation page and to our audience. To donate a product or service, click here.) To see items donated so far, click here.

Cost: Early Admission, until January 31, is $100. After that, admission is $115. All proceeds, minus direct expenses of the seminar, benefit the Rabies Challenge Fund. Chiclet, a Maltese, with ribbons on head

Be a Special Angel of the event and get preferred seating, special gifts and other perks, for $225. Among other things, Special Angels will help us invite shelter officials and others who make vaccination decisions for rescued pets.

Sign up below now. This is a great gift for a friend, your pet care giver or your own pet!

Group Discounts: Pet groups and organizations may qualify for a discount on multiple tickets. Write us for details.

Lodging: Standard rooms will be available for $99 for a limited time. If you're interested, book right away. The Del Mar Hilton is pet friendly. Pets are not allowed in the seminar area.

[UpwardDog]

I passed these links along for some dog owners on my Mom forum when I found out that a friend was going to be turned away and refused treatment for not vaccinated her FOURTEEN yr old dog!
Thanks for this great info!

[Sabine]

I'm glad it was helpful. Dr. Dodds and Dr. Schultz do such great work.

It pisses me off to no end that there are still vets out there who will vaccinate any dog for everything under the sun, regardless of age, circumstances and so on.

Hopefully your friend will stick to her guns for her dog's sake!

[UpwardDog]

I am shocked tonight-- a handle full of people in my dog vax thread have been told by their vets that they can't have their dogs seen in that clinic unless they have their annual shots. They will actually turn them away. Adult, middle aged dogs, long standing patients.

There are also many saying that they have to be fully vaxed annually to keep their registration. They'll come to the door and seize the dog or fine them if they don't vax and don't pay their registration????

[Sabine]

That is 100% unmitigated BS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know about Canada, but here in the US the only vaccine that is legally required for license/registration is rabies. [color:#FF0000]Nothing else!!![/color]

Many greedy/uneducated vets make up their own rules about not treating dogs if hey aren't vaccinated for this-and-that, but that has nothing to do with registration or anything else, just personal policy and possibly CYA - and definitely not a kind of policy in the best interest of a dog's health!

My own vet does not recommend anything but rabies as required by law for any dog 7 years and older, since most vaccines have been proven to be effective for many years, up to the life of the dog.

All of these people need to read Dr. Dodds' and Dr. Schultz' information, hand a copy of it to their vets, and if their wishes are not respected, find a different vet!

Gaaaaah, I'm so mad right now!

[LisaT_II]

We have a vet here that is like that, requires all clients to be on flea meds and to be "up to date" on all vaccinations, whatever that means.

There are some "3 year" vaccines out there, but places like VCA are switching to "1 year vaccines" and using those now to require(?) annual vaccination, or at least tell clients that is what is needed.

It seems like we should be able to report these vets to some licensing board or state regulatory office, and send along a copy of the current reccommandations done with actual *science*

[UpwardDog]

What about grooming and boarding? Sounds like those places ask for proof of a fully vaxed dog?
I meant to add- they're telling me that if your dog bites someone and you don't have proof of vaxes being UTD you can be severly fined and have your dog seized for a period of time?

[Sabine]

Grooming and boarding/daycare/training classes:

Some places require dogs to be "up to date on all vaccines" and on flea and/or tick and/or HW preventive (not all - and some accept titers in lieu of vax), but that's not a "legal" requirement, just business policy. Mainly due to lawsuits in case someone claims their dog contracted a disease while in their care.

[quote=UpwardDog]I meant to add- they're telling me that if your dog bites someone and you don't have proof of vaxes being UTD you can be severly fined and have your dog seized for a period of time? [/quote]

Again, there is no legal requirement for any vaccinations except rabies in the US. I can't speak for Canada. And since there is no such legal requirement for parvo, distemper, lyme, etc., there is no legal grounds for seizing and/or quarantining a dog for lack of these.

I urge everyone to read their specific municipality's (city/county, whatever) animal-related laws thoroughly. If anyone makes comments that anything but rabies is required, ask them to point this out in an official, written document that is current and not out of date.

Here's an example for the city of Los Angeles:
http://www.laanimalservices.org/petinfo_licensing.htm

[LisaT_II]

That UTD and seizure stuff is ONLY for the rabies vaccine, none of the other vaccines.

What is done if your dog bites and it's not UTD *on rabies* will vary by region, history of the dog, and severity of the bite, it can range from home confinement, to quarantine at the pound for a time, and in rare extreme cases, the ultimate test for rabies

[UpwardDog]

Ok.

Is there much rabies in the USA? Or is that something that varies from state to state too?
When Rosie got bitten by the coyote last year, she got a rabies shot and by fluke my vet was not working and we saw one of her partners who has special extra training and certifications in wildlife vet care. She mentioned to me that way basically have no rabies in alberta and haven't in years (I think she actually said decades?)
I sure wouldn't be inclined to e doing regular rabies vaccinations while living in a place that hasn't seen rabies in wlidlife in decades.

[Pchan]

around here, bats and raccoons carry it. not sure about the rates though.

[Claire]

Just read on my NoVax Yahoo group....
For those of you who live in California, on Friday, Oct. 7, 2011 AB258 Molly's Law for Rabies Medical Exemption was signed into law. Here is
the verbiage of the law:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bil ... n_v98.html